## More Episodes From Between Product and Partnerships

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**Why Partnerships Are the Future of SaaS Growth**  
In this episode, Pandium CEO Cristina Flaschen talks with Beth Beese, Director of Partnerships at Loopio, about building a partnerships function from the ground up, aligning with product and CX, and why ecosystems are key to scaling SaaS.  
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**Understanding Different Partnership Motions**  
In this podcast interview we sat down with Marco De Paulis, Director, Ecommerce Partnerships at Ryder.  
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